Molecule Man wins! But HoTU, now that might be a game changer. 3. Although the Beyonder was retconned to a Cosmic Cube, he was retconned again into an Inhuman-Mutant, thus he lacks the feats. In the new secret wars, he was revealed to be a creation of The Beyonders who pl. [url=https://www.superherodb.com/molecule-man-vs-beyonder/90-385102/][/url], https://www.superherodb.com/molecule-man-vs-beyonder/90-385102/. Please support your answer with a little explanation. It's just a line of words originally posted by saint Sophie. Molecule Man compared to Beyonder is like comparing Captain America to Molecule Man, the difference in power is unconceivable, so basically adding IG to MM, is like giving Captain America a 2nd shield to fight Living Tribunal and hoping it will be enough (see scan beneath), How can beyonder be stronger than toaa if its said that he is stronger than EVERYONE and EVERYTHING in the marvel universe put together also isn't the living tribunal 2nd in command after toaa ? | Class. Beyonder vs Molecule Man # 12.2 K Molecule Man Nah, definitely the pre-retcon Beyonder is the damn strongest version of him and in fact overpowers almost everyone in Marvel, this would be a current Beyonder that still remains inferior to a current base MM In a different moment in some comic, Owen Reece (to Captain America) says that he is unbelievably more powerful than Captain America and that the Beyonder is unbelievably more powerful than him. [url=https://www.superherodb.com/beyonder-vs-molecule-man-power-of-beyonders/90-439300/][/url], https://www.superherodb.com/beyonder-vs-molecule-man-power-of-beyonders/90-439300/. Beyonder is NOT a being, he is a ENTIRE universe that was UNMANIFEST. All out, no holds barred, fight to the death. @professorrespect: But doesn't inhuman Beyonder have the same power as regular Beyonder since he retconned himself? [url=https://www.superherodb.com/beyonder-vs-molecule-man/90-127983/][/url], https://www.superherodb.com/beyonder-vs-molecule-man/90-127983/. Beyonder cannot beat TOAA. @mysticmedivh: Wow. However, Molecule Man went toe-to-toe with Beyonder (as a previous writer stated) and that version of the Beyonder is probably the second strongest being in the entire Marvel Multiverse. 1.-. I could not find any related sources, the full uncropped scan, nor could I find the same quote when typing in the exact words given. 18 K. @lowlaville: I'm pretty sure he has not shown any thing he can do with someones soul. No argument can be put up for the Beyonder. team class. Ma. This dimension is accidentally accessed by nebbishy lab technician Owen Reece. Voting feed. This topic is locked from further discussion. Thusly Beyonder would be "stronger" than them as well. Much like what happened to Beyonder when he became manifest into a whole universe with planets etc. In the old secret wars he was the counterpart to The Beyonder who was more powerful than the Living Tribunal. ok here is the most comprehensive answer. No glove, cosmic cubes or power will change that. The level is set when connecting that Super Power to a character. Beyonder is a plot device and the pr beyonder is as strong or stronger than toaa beyonder wins with 1 finger. The One Above All (TOAA), The Heart of the Universe (HOTU, TOAA's power) as invented by Stan Lee is the entirety of the marvel universe manifest as a fractal representation of the universe, which would make TOAA a even match for Beyonder. Molecule Man Owen Reece Earth-616. He never died, he simply changed form. So basically any version of the Beyonder that we see is simply the version he wishes to be at any given time, meaning he still has the power he had during Secret Wars. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Every Super Power has a score (SPS) that is used to calculate the Class. The retcon stuff and Cosmic Cube arc were written out at the time. The character The Brothers, unlike Beyonder who is a entire universe represent the yin and yang WITHIN a universe the polarities. The Superhero Database Classification number, or SHDB Class, is a number that represents the overall 'power' of a character. The Superhero Database Classification number, or SHDB Class, is a number that represents the overall 'power' of a character. @ordinaryalan@baron_von_santa Confirmed the authenticity of the quote. Protege Protege. However while TOAA is manifest in the entire universe his power is not focused or centralized. Living Tribunal >>>>Infinity Gauntlet, and Molecule Man >>>>>>>>>Living Tribunal (see scan beneath), so : Molecule Man >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Infinity Gauntlet, therefore IG will add MM nothing more what can add a tiny ant to an elephant to tank an exploding H-bomb. Official Superhero Database stats. Every Super Power has a score (SPS) that is used to calculate the Class. Bernkastel vs her servant Will ( not an actual battle. Pre-Retcon Beyonder is in fact much stronger than Molecule Man. @mysticmedivh: really? Molecule Man was only retconned once, meaning his feats from the eighties still count. The Infinity Gauntlet would have little difference in this fight. Molecule Man wins! The level is set when connecting that Super Power to a character. | Class. Creation of The Beyonders Powers and Abilities: General Abilities Resistances Infinite neutral plain tanks all hits, no planetary or universal destruction 11 comments 83% Upvoted This thread is archived Thank you. Thanks. @professorrespect: I know. Molecule Man wins! Both Pre-Retcon You know the drill. LT wins. Both Bloodlusted. I'll look into it again and see if I can find something. Answer: He's really powerful, he ranges from universal to multiversal levels of power across the comics. Molecule-Man is superior to characters like that aswell. I'm confused, what's being argued here? He first appeared in Fantastic Four #20 in November 1963 and was created by Stan Lee and Jack. 3. Cool. Buuuuut, Molecule man currently is back to his old power levels. Molecule Man wins! The same can be said of several characters who are universal level or higher. Each Super Power also has 3 levels (SPL). Its just not possible. This doesn't mean that a higher class would always beat a lower class character. 2022 GAMESPOT, A FANDOM COMPANY. 28.6 K. Beyonder & Molecule Man Either solos, but has an EXTREMELY high amount of difficulty over Oblivion. The Infinity Gauntlet would have little difference in this fight. Come Join The Discord: https://discord.gg/wdNQhJEBecome a Patron: https://www.patreon.com/comicsexplainedSecret Wars II is a nine-issue comic book limited se. One user posted a cropped piece of text and claimed it was such. Can I see the proof? But I've read in other topics that the Beyonder is the one who retconned himself both times which apparently makes the retcons invalid since he's the one who did it in the first place, meaning he has the power to unretcon himself, meaning he's still as powerful as he was when he was busting billions of dimensions and the like. The Molecule Man and Galactus that Spider-Man defeated with the powers of Inhuman-Mutant Beyonder weren't the real deal, and were merely fodder creations that looked like them, which the Beyonder . I don't see how beyonder beats them , can beyonder beat eternity since he is a universe. 2.- featherin vs Lamdadelta (not an actual battle, featherin smashed/trashed Lamda with no actual effort) 3.-. The Current Mutant Inhuman Beyonder is featless. The original thread seems to be this: http://www.comicvine.com/beyonder/4005-10300/forums/beyonder-retconned-himself-not-toaa-1612896/. So it's true after all. Maybe we could ask where it's from sometime. MM gave Beyonder a fight on his own, the others were nothing more than insects. Last I heard, the Gauntlet gave nearly total mastery over creation. LT watching Beyonder kill death means peanuts. Beyonder wins! No, the idea at the time was that Beyonder was just a really strong Inhuman mutant hybrid. Beyonder vs Molecule Man (Power Of Beyonders) - Battle - Superhero Database Browse AD FREE for less than 84 a month with an SHDb membership. It. Mad Jim Jaspers is only a part of a single universe. Official Superhero Database stats. Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. Name: Molecule Man, Owen Reece Origin: Marvel Comics Gender: Male Age: Unknown Classification: Human ascended by being exposed to the power of The Beyonder | Human ascended by being exposed to the power of a cosmic cube | Multiversal singularity. We. 511B. Molecule Man wins! " The LT begged Molecule Man.. Molecule Man Casual I think this may be the high marvel tier match I was looking for. But the bigger the difference in Class is, the more obvious it is who'll win in a fight. Molecule Man - vs - Beyonder # 12.4 K. Molecule Man How tf Beyonders does have 1 vote? He's a monster that made Multiversal galactus that stomped master order and lord chaos look like little brats. AkhilPDX 3 y 9 mo 15 d. Beyonder & Molecule Man - vs - Team Multi-Eternity (7th Cosmos) #. So Molecule Man sort of wins by default. whose own avatar (not even her real self) absorbed the entire dc multiverse and was only countered because the. But the bigger the difference in Class is, the more obvious it is who'll win in a fight. not to mention pralaya. " Again, Pre-ret Molecule Man was not omnipotent nor omniscient. Wasent when Beyonder fought Molecule man, everybody jumped on and attacked Beyonder, still he kicked them away in a whim? | Class: https://www.superherodb.com/beyonder-post-retcon/10-14042/. Are we talking about PR Beyonder? The Molecule Man and Galactus that Spider-Man defeated with the powers of Inhuman-Mutant Beyonder weren't the real deal, and were merely fodder creations that looked like them, which the Beyonder originally created with his imagination to keep himself occupied. Is there credibility to this, to your knowledge? Part of the energy from the dimension escapes and imbues Reece with near-infinite powers, which he wields as the villainous Molecule Man . Bernkastel first summoned few thousands kitties, Will resisted for a while, but it did not take long for the cats to rip off one of his . Each Super Power also has 3 levels (SPL). Beyonder Ivory King Earth-616. I think they are going to use him in the Infinity Gauntlet movie is the whole reason they did this. Current Molecule Man is a Cosmic Cube. All traits of a character are used for calculating the Classification. molecule man have the power of the beyonders as he is the source of the powers of god emperor doom whom powers were those of the beyonders as he absorbed their powers however the beyonders were were just using avatars,beyonder as well the whole beyonders and owen recreating the 8th cosmos was just their experiment I'm aware of the quote, and I've done research, however, I cannot authenticate it. http://www.comicvine.com/beyonder/4005-10300/forums/beyonder-retconned-himself-not-toaa-1612896/. Molecule Man wins! Composite feats from all Marvel Canons. Oh, so the power of the Infinity Gems is a retcon, but not the Godlike abilities of Molecule Man, who Illuminarch said: Oh, so the power of the Infinity Gems is a retcon, but not the Godlike abilities of Molecule DC_Marvel_1000 said: Illuminarch said: Oh, so the power of the Infinity Gems is a retcon, but not the Godlike abilities Are you actually contending that Molecule Man is more powerful than the Infinity Gauntlet? @ordinaryalan: I don't even know where that quote that he retconned himself is from, I couldn't find it anywhere. Current MM is trash though. Go to http://www.dollarshaveclub.com/comicsexplained and get a one month membership of ANY razor for $1. The Beyonder is the sum total of a parallel reality called the Beyond-Realm or simply "Beyond", hence the name "Beyonder". But the bigger the difference in Class is, the more obvious it is who'll win in a fight. molecule man have the power of the beyonders as he is the source of the powers of god emperor doom whom powers were those of the beyonders as he absorbed their powers however the beyonders were were just using avatars,beyonder as well the whole beyonders and owen recreating the 8th cosmos was just their experiment The level determines the final score, of the Super Power, being used in the calculation. Probably MM if he's PR, he actually fought with PR Beyonder, and PR can blink IH Beyonder. Wow thats pretty cool, I had no idea either. It's legit. The entire universe would have to attack at once and then it would stalemate as all universes are essentially equal in power and being constructed of energy immortal for our purposes. All traits of a character are used for calculating the Classification. Seemingly by the same margin if his wording is anything to go by. 2. 1. !SUBS. The level is set when connecting that Super Power to a character. The Beyonder is an imperfect Cosmic Cube, which the Gauntlet has the edge on by a considerable margin. The omniverse in a box feat is really debatable as proof of omniversal level. 588B. People just don't know the old history of neither the Molecule Man nor the Infinity Gems. Molecule Man is a fictional character appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. MM has at least feats worth talking about as compared to Inhuman Beyonder, who was just basic matter manip. It would be like adding a BB gun to two tanks fighting. It would be like adding a BB gun to two tanks fighting. The level determines the final score, of the Super Power, being used in the calculation. Beyonder's is centralized and focused on one point in one individual. The One Above All (TOAA), The Heart of the Universe (HOTU, TOAA's power) as invented by Stan Lee is the entirety of the marvel universe manifest as a fractal representation of the universe, which would make TOAA a even match for Beyonder. FREE shipping, no commitments, cancel anytime! Current MM is trash though. LT has been shown to be both. Much like what happened to Beyonder when he became manifest into a whole universe with planets etc. Wasn't he right underneath TOAA? wait.sorry for not knowing this..but how has the Molecule man "come back" from his apparent "defeat" at the hands of Sentry? Le. So it conceivable that Beyonder would win in a skirmish but would eventually stalemate as both universes can not effectively defeat each as each universe is immortal and can only be reordered or changed in form, frequency or energy type. However while TOAA is manifest in the entire universe his power is not focused or centralized. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features Press Copyright Contact us Creators . Molecule Man also strikes fear in the heart of incredibly powerful beings such as Galactus. This doesn't mean that a higher class would always beat a lower class character. He never died, he simply changed form. Cool stuff. This doesn't mean that a higher class would always beat a lower class character. molecule man have the power of the beyonders as he is the source of the powers of god emperor doom whom powers were those of the beyonders as he absorbed their powers however the beyonders were were just using avatars,beyonder as well the whole beyonders and owen recreating the 8th cosmos was just their experiment 3.3T. God Emperor Doom Victor Von Doom Earth-616. The level determines the final score, of the Super Power, being used in the calculation. He loses because TOAA can erase him out of existence if it wanted to, but because TOAA is neutral, it does not. Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs. Molecule man VS Beyonder - YouTube Molecule man VS Beyonder Mask Man 221 Dislike 24 Share Part 2- Result out now #shorts #giant #effect #faffashorts Faffapix Shorts Like Dislike Comment. @professorrespect: I know. ta. 3. @kool_chris: eternity is like a bug next to the sun that is the beyonder, @baron_von_santa: More like an atom to a universe. Molecule Man wins! MoleculeMan is the most powerful being in MU. 1. Molecule Man wins! 2. Official Superhero Database stats. 492B. This fight will probably span the course of 1 trillion years, but after that, Beyonder will probably win. Current Molecule Man is weak and was beaten by Sentry, IIRC. So it conceivable that Beyonder would win in a skirmish but would eventually stalemate as both universes can not effectively defeat each as each universe is immortal and can only be reordered or changed in form, frequency or energy type. George and Jessica vs Gaap and Ronove. All traits of a character are used for calculating the Classification. Beyonder represented his entire multiverse in entirety. Yet he can plague and kill an entire universe with his powers. Molecule Man wins! So with all of that said, I say they tie after the others die. Inifinity gems are part of the very construct of the universe, MoleculeMan already gathered all the power existing in the multiverse and still didn't have enough power to just create Beyonder-proof dome (see scan beneath), 3. 2022 GAMESPOT, A FANDOM COMPANY. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Molecule man and even the infinity guantlet are still items and beings WITHIN a universe, so its like saying two pieces of a universe could defeat a entire universe. The Superhero Database Classification number, or SHDB Class, is a number that represents the overall 'power' of a character. Molecule Man wins! EmptyHand 3 y 9 mo 15 d. Beyonder & Molecule Man - vs - Team Multi-Eternity (7th Cosmos) #. Beyonder vs Molecule Man (Power Of Beyonders) Created by Tyrannus login to vote 6 / 22.2% Beyonder Earth-616 588B SHDb uStats Intelligence 100 Strength 100 Speed Durability 100 Power 100 Combat 100 Tier 9 Although Spider-Man did recreate the universe, Cosmic Cubes were easily multiversal in terms of power. Each Super Power also has 3 levels (SPL). The OP is kind of hard to understand, I don't think English is their first language. Every Super Power has a score (SPS) that is used to calculate the Class. Beyonder's is centralized and focused on one point in one individual. Question: What can Infinity Gauntlet do that MM cant? Though in a what if where the Illuminati manage to piss him off he manages to effortlessly destroy the Earth and everything. 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